Its a very fair decision from CCP and will gain a large degree of respect from the wider gaming media I believe.

Well done CCP, I am very impressed.

Excuse me for this but **** you, Seriously go **** yourself (in game RP terms here).

I voted for the mittani and this is not what I want to see, its not what the 10000 supporters wanted to see.
I understand you are unfamiliar with democracy (coming from earlier csm's were the vote count was so low as to be non-existant) however I am completely shocked that CCP would ignore the wishes of over 10000 paying customers.

If you had any sense of fairness you'd be joining us and asking CCP about the 10000.

All those crying about the 10k vote loss.

The player has been banned and is out of the game -> LOSS OF REPRESENTATION.

PERIOD


Blame the player himself and NOT CCP.

that would be the funniest lawsuit ever filled
stop acting like a ....

CCP this is the most unintelligent maneuver you've done yet, a monkey would have made this retaliatory action fairer than you.

Tell me that isn't you Alex?

I didn't envy Alex or CCP when this broke.

I respect Alex a great deal for making his apology, but regretably this was always the most realistic outcome.

The CSM reached a wrong decision. Alex Gianturco's actions were indefensible really and rather than manning up and telling him he had to go they tried to fool themselves about the scope of the damage done by Alex's drunken antics at Fanfest.

The CSM reached a wrong decision. Alex Gianturco's actions were indefensible really and rather than manning up and telling him he had to go they tried to fool themselves about the scope of the damage done by Alex's drunken antics at Fanfest.

This is the problem with sycophancy in a nutshell. Last year they got so used to being beta males to the Mittani's alpha that they lost their collective backbone and the problem now is that the CSM iself is out of touch with the player base it is supposed to represent.

Well by disregarding their collective advise haven't they just done this?

Nobody really cares since you don't represent anyone but yourself.

Did you get drunk on stage and embarrass the company and player base of Eve Online in the eyes of the gaming media perchance?

and that is exactly relevant to my post how ?

So given the CSM was formed partially as an oversight body to look at CCPs internal proceedures and ensure t20 didn't happen again and was supposed to include players of good character and trustworthy community-centric outlook - how do you propose that kind of body could get any real respect if it was not itself held to the standards expected of the rest of the community?

You cannot be "independent" of the need to have the interests of Eve Online and its player community at heart.

The real problem with Alexander Gianturco is he didn't really give a monkeys about the Eve online community - he only cared for SA and goonswarm.

But regardless CCP have acted fairly in punishing him quite leniently really. Many players would have liked to see him permabanned for what he did so a 30 day ban is a slap on the wrists. The real punishment has been delivered to goonswarm itself whose players have wasted their votes, but to be honest, goonswarm probably deserve this punishment as well given their appalling behaviour on the forums over this incident.

I think he deserved some sort of sanction for his actions, most reasonable people recognise that he crossed a line.

to pinpoint my claim:

http://community.eveonline.com/download/devblog/CSM.pdf

on page 20 it says, and i quote:




In light of this, ccp please explain why he will be able to run for CSM in the future.

Yeah it was made partially in response to the developer corruption scandal that involved T20 and Band of Brothers alliance and make sure the players had oversight to ensure that could never happen again.

The irony is we almost had a situation where Mittani was boasting of being in control of developers and influence within CCP and replaying this corrupt old scenario again. Had Mittani not been appropriately punished over his behaviour at Fanfest many many players and many external media sites would have considered he was being given unfair treatment that other players could not expect.

That is a very poor decision that CCP in general should probably reconsider over the year to come. An individual's noteriety/prominence should never overcome the basic requirement to be a player of good standing and reputation (ie without serious infractions on the account.)

The way you've stated it there just sounds like a shady legal loophole and it will be seen as such.

It's not like you're grasping at your own straws to desperately prove to the world that you're not angered over the titan nerf, and it's not like you're using mittens' dismissal as some sort of tool you can wave around whilst shouting "HAHA LOOK AT THIS GUYS WE'RE NOT MAD ABOUT THE TITAN NERF NO NOT AT ALL HEH HAZED" etc

The brutal irony is that if the entirety of Goonswarm quit tomorrow it'd probably take about a month to make up the loss with extra hisec miners and carebears deciding that Eve was now a game for them after all.

(and course with the biggest NAPFEST the game has ever seen being broken up then 0.0 wars would start getting interesting again.)

Well you did just have your "king of space" decapitated.